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That's C-H-A-I-F-L-C-K-S dot com. Hey there. Welcome back to Ruthless. I'm Leah Libowitz. It is my absolute pleasure and privilege today to be joined by one of the people who really

shaped Jewish thought and theology for a very long time now.

His new book, The Triumph of Life and Narrative Theology of Judaism, is just out.

And already won awards, rightfully so.

It is a bold and brilliant, even for those who may not

agree with it. Rethinking or reimagining of what Judaism is, was, and perhaps most importantly,

can be, it is my great honor to welcome to this show, Rabbi Irving Yitz-Greenberg. Hello,

Rabbi. Hello, thank you very much. Hello from Jerusalem, where I'm sitting right now,

enjoying this miraculous conversation.

Where else would you be, but not in the center of the known universe in Yushalim?

Since we're talking about the center of the earth and of time,

as I read your book, I was somewhat surprised and not altogether unpleased to learn that

I am now living in the third era of Jewish history. I love this theory of the three eras of

Jewish history. Kindly elaborate. What are they and where are we now on the scheme, the larger

scheme of things? Well, thank you for asking that because I consider that one of the more important ideas

I've ever had in the book. So, first of all, it starts by saying that Judaism is a religion

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