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Eat Sleep Work Repeat - better workplace culture

Can one bad apple ruin your team?

Eat Sleep Work Repeat - better workplace culture

Bruce Daisley

Science, Culture, Management, Social Sciences, Work, Business, Workplace Culture

4.7989 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Kate Murphy is the author a new book called Why We Click. It combines the very latest research into interpersonal synchrony - how we form bonds with others.


It's an intriguing read - at times compelling, at times challenging.


I chatted to her to understand 'the bad apple effect' and her take on whether we need face-to-face communication at all costs.


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0:00.0

This is Eatsleep Workerpeat, a podcast about workplace culture. Hello, I'm Bruce Daisley.

0:06.9

Interesting episode for you today. It's an interesting disclosure to kick off with. There's a lot of

0:11.6

things I really enjoyed about Kate Murphy's book, why we click. It's a sort of exploration about

0:18.2

communication about how we fall into synchrony with each other.

0:23.0

What I liked, Kate's a journalist who's written on a wide range of topics for news

0:27.4

publications around the world, and she brings an appetite for discovery to her books.

0:32.9

She sort of does her research, she tries to get inside different topics.

0:39.6

This book, like I say, is about how to get in sync with other people. And we've probably never needed that more. The idea that we

0:45.0

need to try and sort of reform our understanding of how to get connected with other people has

0:52.0

never been more important. She says some things in there that

0:55.6

a few of us might flinch at. She says, for example, that we can only get in sync with people

1:00.6

face to face. Now, obviously, that's got huge implications for the way that we do work and where we do

1:06.1

work. Effectively, she says any other communication is sort of impoverished. It doesn't really work the same.

1:12.4

We've witnessed it, but it's just interesting for her to articulate it. And I can handle her

1:17.0

perspective on that. I've seen other things that make me think I don't wholly agree. If you've ever

1:22.7

watched online gamers playing and chatting to people through headsets, you can see they're totally attuned with

1:29.4

each other and they're in total synchrony. There's a total connection. There's a humor. There's a

1:34.2

warmth. There's a full connection. You might say that that's audio connection and that she says

1:41.6

that that isn't as bad as video connection. I don't know, but it suggests to me that technology isn't necessarily this impervious

1:49.4

barrier that we can't form connections with.

1:51.8

So, you know, I've got some questions there.

1:54.3

Eventually, though, the book goes a little bit woo-woo.

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