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Welcome back to Bucket Talks, Steve Amines, Nathan Baird, Andrew Gillis after Ohio

State's 20 to 12 win over Penn State, another top 15 win, top 10 win for Ohio State.

Noted that was in the top 10 when they played them. So you can say that even though the number

15 right now, but top another top 10 win for Ohio State. And let's just off the bat. Nathan,

I'll come to you first. We did a video on this. And I think it's a worthy discussion and

start things off here. Can Ohio State win a national championship on the back of its

defense?

I think it's going to have to. I wonder what we're choice of they have. They can't run the

ball. Like that, that second half today, 1.1 yards per carry, sack adjusted in the second

half. Maybe Trevor and Henderson helped out. Maybe not. I'm not trying to start on a

negative side. So let's, so I just don't think they're, I just don't think they're going

to see the explosion this on offense this year that we're accustomed to. I just don't

know that it's ever going to get there. But this defense is great. So let's just talk

it. Let's, let's make sure I'm talking about it from that perspective, talking to myself

here.

I mean, this defense today, yes, there were a couple of plays that it gave up, you know,

Pinsley weirdly had like its most success on first down. And it was at one point in this

game where it had 15, it four plays of 15 and more yards. They were all on first down.

And then like at one point, it was like six out of seven. And, but then Ohio State kept

putting, this was, I thought just a little bit of a masterclass by Jim Knowles, like you

put this game on Drew Aller, like they stopped the run often enough early enough on early

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