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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu, and I'm joined by Katie Balls and Jones Forsyth.

Today, the CBI has given a stern warning for the government that if something

is not done to reform test and trace as it currently is, then retail sectors really may not keep up.

Katie, this comes at the end of a few weeks of worries about supply chains and to extent that

we didn't even have those in the first lockdown. The government obviously on Monday promised that they would do something about to have a key worker list,

but nothing has been forthcoming so far. What's going on?

Well, I think we have a situation where the government has relaxed all legal restrictions,

and therefore when it comes to self-isolation, it really is seen as the last line of defence they have in the current stage we're at.

And that's why number 10 is so reluctant when faced with frustrations within government, as well as Tory MPs who are the most vocal, at least publicly on it, to relax the self-isolation rules, to change the app, which was one idea that was me used,

to make it less sensitive, and to bring forward that date of next month and the double

vaccinated will be able to be exempt from self-isolation.

So that's why they're resistant to it.

And clearly, because cases have been climbing so high we're

starting to heal those stats that you know I think over formally and people are expected to be

pinged or told to self isolate between now and August 16th when things are relaxed and that clearly

does create disruption now critical workers are going to be exempt in some form but I think there is a

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