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Can Nature Heal Heartbreak?

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Outside Podcast

Wilderness, Sports

4.32.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In recent years, research has demonstrated that spending time in nature can help with everything from anxiety to attention deficit disorder to high blood pressure. Florence Williams knows this as well as anyone: her celebrated 2017 book The Nature Fix, explained the science behind the many physiological and emotional benefits of being in natural environments. So when she went through a painful divorce from her husband of 25 years, she turned to the outdoors for healing—and chronicled her experiences in her latest book, Heartbreak. In this episode, we eavesdrop on a conversation between Williams and Outside contributing editor Elizabeth Hightower Allen to learn about broken-heart syndrome (a real medical condition), the chemical explanation for rebound relationships, and whether taking a solo river trip immediately after a breakup is the best idea.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From Outside Magazine, this is the Outside Podcast.

0:15.8

A few years back, Outside Magazine published a story about a grassroots movement of

0:20.5

doctors prescribing time outdoors as a treatment for a wide range of conditions.

0:27.0

The physicians writing these prescriptions weren't going rogue.

0:30.4

They were reacting to new research, showing that nature can help us with everything from

0:34.8

anxiety and attention deficit disorder to high blood pressure.

0:39.5

Personally, I love that modern science is showing us what outside has long preached, that

0:45.0

heading out our doors is really good for us.

0:48.4

But lately, I've also been feeling a bit frustrated, because what I really want to see is evidence

0:54.9

that nature might also heal something I deal with far too frequently, a broken heart.

1:01.6

You see, I'm something of a reluctant breakup expert.

1:05.7

I've been dumped, I've done the breaking, I've come to many well-reasoned mutual splits.

1:11.6

In my mid-twenties, I already have go-to break-up sweatpants, a go-to break-up ice cream,

1:16.3

lemon, and go-to break-up movies, birds of prey, and ten things I hate about you.

1:22.0

And of course, I have some grim post-break-up stories, like the time I got through a particularly

1:26.5

heinous grieving period by eating nothing but pizza for four days straight.

1:32.3

Other times, though, I've turned to the outdoors.

1:35.3

I've convinced myself to go backpacking and take in a week-long solo road trip, and even

1:40.7

gotten into trail running.

1:42.7

Sometimes, this approach works.

1:45.6

Sometimes, it doesn't.

1:47.6

And I've always wondered why.

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