Hi, I'm Anouche, and I'm Stephen.

And on today's episode of the New Statesman podcast,

we discuss the aftermath of the death of Sir David Amos MP,

and you ask us, what can we learn from the early years

of new labor?

So we're speaking just under a week after Sir David Amos,

the Conservative MP, who'd served in Parliament since 1983,

was killed in his constituency,

while holding his constituency surgery in a church in South End.

Stephen, both you and I have written about this

and what implications it has for MPs.

But should we just talk a little bit about what the mood has

been like since this horrible event for me,

it seems like a very bleak sense of deja vu

from the arguments and the reflections

that came after Jo Cox was killed in 2016.

The mood in Westminster is obviously

understandably very somber for kind of two reasons.

The first incident, it feels very familiar

to lots of the conversations after the murder of Jo Cox,

not least because although this is not the most frequent

the rate to put it back, grimly, is not,

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