Can Mathematics Fuel Creativity? With Marcus du Sautoy (Part Two)

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🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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From the earliest stone circles to Mozart’s obsession with numbers to the radically modern architecture of Zaha Hadid, maths and creativity are interwoven across time and space. Whether we are searching for meaning in an abstract painting or finding patterns in poetry, there are blueprints everywhere: symmetry, prime numbers, the golden ratio and more. In May 2025 we were joined by award-winning mathematician and Oxford professor Marcus du Sautoy as he looked to the arts to uncover the key mathematical structures that underpin both nature and human creativity. Drawing on his new book, Blueprints, du Sautoy explored how we make art, why a creative mindset is vital for discovering new mathematics, and how a fundamental connection to the natural world intrinsically links these two subjects. ----- If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:03.2	Welcome to Intelligence Squared where great minds meet.
1:05.0	I'm producer Mia Serenti.
1:11.7	Today's episode is part two of our event recording with the Oxford professor and award-winning mathematician, Marcus de Sotoy.
1:17.1	Marcus was in conversation with Dr. Shinney-Sumara, live at Conway Hall to discuss all things,
1:20.6	maths and creativity and the surprising relationship between the two.
1:24.7	If you missed part one, do just jump back an episode to get up to speed.
1:29.7	Now let's continue the conversation, live at Conway Hall with Dr. Shinney Samara. The number three is masculine and the number two is considered to be feminine and
1:37.2	when you add them it's five golden ratio. Yes, well this is very interesting because you know
1:43.9	that here we see, you know, cultures
1:46.8	already understanding that mathematics has a kind of personalities involved in it. And that, you know,
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