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Hello and welcome to the special Saturday edition of Coffee Half Shots.

I'm James Hill and I'm joined today by the spectators Katie Bulls

and the financial times Stephen Bush.

Thank you both for being here, the subject of today

that we are talking about, the Labour Party, which seems to have a bit of a spring in its step recently.

Confident leads in the polls and for this week's magazine, Katie talks to the share of chance

to the Rachel Reeves.

Stephen just wondered, you know, two years or so out from an election,

how do you think Labour's feeling at this point in the Parliament?

Well, I think the very important thing to understand about the psychology of the Labour Party

is, yeah, okay, basically with the exception of Nadia Wittum, the youngest MP in the House,

every member of the Parliament's Labour Party remembers the 1992 general election

when they led in the polls, led right until the end.

You had a fractured, some would say, ungovernable conservative party

led by a leader who'd come in after, you know, election winner

was seen as fundamentally decent but in one of, you know, destined to defeat

and then unexpectedly won.

And you can see many of the parallels there with Rushi Sonak

and then all of them lived through and fought and in some case was staff as on

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