Can Labour Match The Tories For Plotting?
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
4.1 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
It's election day across the UK, and speculation is rife about a looming plot to oust Keir Starmer. But should the Labour Party just admit it's not as good at skulduggery as the Conservatives in their heyday?
Hugo Rifkind is joined by Sarah Ditum and Matthew Parris, to discuss scheming politicians, the drinking culture in Parliament, and how the 24 hour news cycle changed modern politics.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day, |
| 0:09.3 | which on a day when broadcasting rules mean we can't talk about elections taking place across the UK |
| 0:13.4 | may be tricky, but on the other hand, perhaps we'll find it rather refreshing. |
| 0:17.6 | And speaking of refreshing, I'm joined by the Times columnist Sarah Dytum. |
| 0:20.8 | Hello, Sarah. Hello, I don't actually have elections where I am, so maybe I'm allowed to. Maybe I'll go off. Maybe you can say what you like, as long as you say it quietly in your own room and don't broadcast it to the nation. So if you just fall quiet at any point, we'll assume that's what you're doing, Sarah. we're also joined by as refreshing as a cool pint of logger at 5am |
| 0:40.0 | at Stansett Airport the time fall quiet at any point. We'll assume that's what you're doing, Sarah. We're also joined by, |
| 0:37.7 | as refreshing as a cool pint of lager at 5am at Stansett Airport, the Times columnist Matthew Paris. Hello, Matthew. Good morning. Hello. How are you? Oh, pretty good, pretty good. I'm going to see my bank manager today, so I've shaved. Right, you're looking very smart. Oh, thank you. We were discussing this |
| 0:51.6 | far I'm very impressed |
| 0:52.3 | that you still have a bank |
| 0:53.0 | manager |
| 0:53.3 | yes have you |
| 0:55.0 | have you had the bank |
| 0:55.8 | manager since |
| 0:56.5 | the same bank manager |
| 0:57.9 | since you're a teenager? |
| 0:58.9 | No, no. I joined Barclays when I was at university because we had an instruction from our students |
| 1:07.0 | union to boycott Barclays, so I thought I'm not doing that. But no, I'm with another bank. |
| 1:11.9 | And life as a columnist beckoned. It's a very columnist decision. I'm not sure. I even have a bank, |
| 1:17.5 | let alone a bank manager. Anyway, let's crack on. I want to begin with what Donald Trump has |
| 1:21.9 | been saying about the war in Iran. Here he is speaking overnight in the White House. |
| 1:25.6 | I think we won. Now it's only a question of, look, if we left right now Iran, it would |
| 1:32.6 | take them 20 years to rebuild. You would call that we're in good shape, right? |
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