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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Can Kering Fix Gucci?

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Gucci has long been the shining star of Kering’s luxury portfolio, but the brand's recent struggles have exposed weaknesses in the conglomerate’s position. Gucci’s sales plummeted 24 percent in the fourth quarter of 2024, dragging Kering’s overall performance down by 12 percent. The shock departure of Creative Director Sabato De Sarno after less than two years only deepens the group’s instability.


Luxury editor Robert Williams joins executive editor Brian Baskin and senior correspondent Sheena Butler-Young to discuss how Gucci’s downturn is affecting Kering’s broader portfolio, why its attempt at a creative reset didn’t resonate, and what’s next for the group as it searches for a new vision.




Key Insights: 


  • Gucci's downturn has been severe, with sales falling by almost a quarter in 2024. This dramatic slide highlights the challenge of reinvigorating the brand. “[Gucci] has had a few really big booms, but then also some pretty big busts afterward. That creates additional complications for the group and how much they're able to invest in acquiring new brands, in developing the brands they have. And honestly, to also just continue to exist,” says Williams.


  • Gucci’s identity has become muddled as it leans too heavily on its heritage, potentially limiting its appeal. “Gucci can stand for a lot of things and I think that's where they got a bit confused. It's the biggest Italian luxury brand and maybe they started to think that it was more of a heritage house than it should be,” Williams explains. 


  • Williams outlines a protective strategy where the group is preemptively selling off valuable real estate. He cites the sale of luxury jewellery house Boucheron headquarters and flagship store on Place Vendôme, stating, "choosing to cash in on the fact that this building is worth a lot of money is a bit worrying that they feel the need to get that treasury right now." 


  • Gucci’s potential for a rapid rebound hinges on securing the right creative leadership to tell a compelling story of the brand and leveraging its extensive assets. “I think real potential for the rebound is there if they can get the right person in place just to tell a very convincing fashion story. It can go very high, very fast again,” Williams says. “They have a lot of real estate, they have a lot of stores in great locations and they have a whole supply chain behind them that's really like rooting for their comeback because it's the biggest client for so many suppliers in the Italian fashion system.”

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the debrief from the Business of Fashion, where each week we delve

0:12.0

into our most popular B.OF professional stories with the correspondents who created them.

0:16.9

I'm executive editor Brian Baskin. And I'm senior correspondent Sheena Butler Young.

0:23.5

2024 was to quote Bernstein analyst Luca Soka and Anas Horribalists for Caring.

0:29.7

Gucci's sales plunged 24% in the fourth quarter, with Carring's overall sales falling 12%.

0:35.9

The company's stock actually rose slightly after the results came out,

0:40.3

but only because investors were already bracing for the worst

0:43.3

after three consecutive quarters of double-digit declines.

0:46.3

But of course, numbers don't always tell the full story.

0:49.3

On their latest earnings call,

0:51.3

Caring Chairman and CEO Francois Henri Pinot sounded optimistic.

0:56.4

The strategy we are implementing consistently since we became caring, a pure player in luxury,

1:02.0

is unchanged. We have demonstrated in the past that we know how to grow brands, and we will do it

1:07.4

again. Gucci will come back. I have absolutely no doubts about this.

1:13.3

If and when Gucci does come back, it will be without creative director Sabado de Sarno,

1:18.2

who was fired after less than two years on the job.

1:21.4

Pino is confident about the future of caring.

1:23.5

But should he be?

1:24.7

To break it all down, we're joined by BOF's luxury editor, Robert Williams.

1:28.6

Hi, Robert.

1:29.3

Welcome back to the debrief podcast.

1:31.3

Hi, Sheena.

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