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Hello and welcome to Coffee House shots

as spectators daily politics podcast.

I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson and Isabel Hardman.

So we've just had Prime Minister's questions

and there were some fierce exchanges on the NHS

and Richie Sunak on his assessment of Kirstama's character.

Here's what he had to say.

Mr Speaker, if we are going to deliver for the British people

people need to have strong convictions.

But when it comes to the honourable gentleman,

he isn't just for the free movement of people.

He's also got the free movement of principles.

Fraser, what do you make about ultimately the Prime Minister saying

he's for the free movement of principles?

I think Richie Sunak is referring to the various policy shifts we've had

on gender self-ID, and outsourcing on the NHS.

It's a strange thing to attack somebody for.

I'm also in favour of the free movement of principles of thoughts.

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