Hey Waves listeners, a quick note before we get to today's show. I know some of you might be looking

for coverage of Wednesdays Supreme Court arguments in the abortion case Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health

Organization.

This week's episode of The Waves had already been taped before that happened,

but you should check out Saturday's Amicus podcast for an in-depth discussion of that case. and we'll have lots more coverage of

reproductive rights in the future. If there's something you're particularly

interested in hearing about drop as a line at the waves at slate.com.

This is the waves.

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This is the waves.

This is the waves. This is the waves. This is the waves. This is the waves. Waves. and playing devil's advocate in the Kamler-Harras debate.

Every episode you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing we can't get off our minds.

And today you've got me, Noreen Malone, an editor-at-large for Slate.

And me, Alicia Montgomery, executive producer of Slate Podcasts.

I'm excited because this week we're talking about Kamala Harris's vice presidency.

So a USA Today Suffolk poll in early November showed that she had an approval rating of just 28%,

which for a little context is lower than even Dick Cheney's at his lowest, which is kind of crazy, right?

She's only a year into this.

There's been no Iraq war, and she's lower than Dick Cheney.

Harris hasn't actually been in the spotlight very much.

That's the other crazy part about this.

What is that all about?

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