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Explain It to Me

Can John Kelly fix the Trump administration? Can anyone?

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Education, News, Society & Culture

4.48K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2017

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Dara Lind and Andrew Prokop join Matt to talk about Kelly's record as DHS Secretary and Trump's bizarre Twitter feud with Mitch McConnell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Antarctica is always on lists of places to go before global warming gets too bad.

0:06.8

Is this where we talk about my brilliant strategy to save the polar bears by airlifting all of them to Antarctica and having to meet the penguins?

0:13.3

Also, fuck penguins.

0:15.6

Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Matthew E. Glecius.

0:34.0

Joining me today we have Andrew Prokop and Darah Lind, two of the best minds in our office on

0:41.5

Political Matters. We're going to talk about John Kelly, new White House Chief of Staff and his

0:48.0

efforts to bring organization and coherence to the Trump administration, which have been pretty successful so far.

0:53.6

Wildly successful, he's not at all in a Twitter feud with the Senate Majority Leader.

0:59.2

You know, obviously part of sort of recent news from the Trump White House has been there

1:04.3

escalating Twitter battle with North Korea. If you're interested in like the real substance of the North

1:12.3

Korea issue, I would really recommend yesterday's episode of Worldly, which delves into this with some real kind of

1:19.0

expertise on the military and foreign policy issues. Ezra Klein has a great interview on Hisha with

1:24.8

Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado about sort of dysfunction up there. But I think the three of us really

1:30.0

want to talk about the Trump White House, how that operation is working. What happened to me was

1:38.6

I was about to head out the door and go on vacation when we heard that when Screbus was out as

1:45.6

Chief of Staff that John Kelly was coming in. And the sort of immediate takes on that was a kind of a

1:53.9

general atmosphere that this was welcome. Largely because I mean, previous was obviously not

1:59.5

effective in that role. So we're policing with almost anybody. You seem like a good idea. John

2:04.4

Kelly is a general. We deliver a lot of deference and respect to the uniform military in the United

2:11.2

States, particularly its flag officers. And Kelly was also perceived as a real sort of

2:18.4

whether you like it or not Trump administration success story. And on a lot of fronts, Trump has

2:23.7

seemed to be flailing. But I think the general perception is that Trump wanted a kind of harsh

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