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Seriously...

Can I Talk About Heroes?

Seriously...

BBC

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.1885 Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Vicky Foster's award-winning Radio 4 Audio Drama Bathwater looked at the effect the murder in 2005 in Hull of the father of her children, a firefighter, is still having on her family .

In this documentary, Can I talk about Heroes ? Vicky looks at the way society creates heroes, whether the meaning and significance of that label has changed in recent times and if the term is still useful .

This questioning has been prompted by her own story. Stephen Gallant, convicted of the murder of Vicky's ex-partner,was out on day licence attending a prisoner rehabilitation event in November 2019 when he tackled the London Bridge terrorist with a narwhal tusk, which caught the attention of the public and the media. He was quickly branded a 'hero' .

Vicky Foster talks to Dr Zeno Franco, Associate Professor, Medical College of Wisconsin Emma Kinder, Victim Support’s Homicide Regional Manager Jacquie Johnston-Lynch, Head of Services at Vitality Homes Recovery Centre Mel, a nurse working on a covid ward.

Produced by Susan Roberts, BBC Audio North

Transcript

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0:00.0

This was an impregnable fortress. The only way you get out was in a wooden box.

0:05.0

The controversial maximum security prison impossible to escape from.

0:09.0

And one of the duties of a political prisoner is the escape.

0:12.0

The IRA inmates who found a way. of a political prisoner is the escape.

0:12.5

The IRA inmates who found a way.

0:14.5

I'm Carlo Gableer and I'll be navigating a path

0:19.5

through the disturbing inside story of the biggest jailbreak in British and Irish history.

0:25.0

The narrative that they want is that this is a big achievement by them.

0:28.5

Escape from the maze, listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:35.0

BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, Music Radio Podcasts.

0:39.0

It began with a plane crash five years ago

0:42.0

and unraveled into one of the biggest scandals the world has ever seen.

0:47.0

From BBC Radio 4, the conspiracy thriller returns for the final climactic series. A plane, a brain, a tool building the fabric of time. They're

0:56.5

all tracks leading to an ending. Tracks. Hear it from the very beginning. You can listen to every series now on BBC Signs.

1:07.0

Hi, I'm Riana Dillon and this is Seriously.

1:12.0

Today we're bringing you another seriously interesting story told a little sideways.

1:20.0

At the end of 2019 when the terrorist attack happened I just remember all these

1:28.8

videos popping up this man running down London Bridge with a narwhalled susk and apprehending the terrorist.

1:36.0

It really caught my eye as a writer. I didn't even know that narwhals were real.

1:41.0

I thought they were like imaginary creatures didn't realize that they're like whales.

1:45.9

It looked like a clear-cut case of good overcoming evil. It played out in that physical way that we sort of want to see from our heroes,

1:55.6

especially because of the tusk looking like a lance, it like harks back to all that old

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