Hello and welcome to another episode of the Everything Electric podcast.

Now coming today from Australia, although I am in the UK, so I'm slightly jealous because it's very cold in the UK and it's

extraordinarily warm in Australia at the moment but today's guest is works for

Osgrid which is the large grid network that delivers electricity and also kind of takes in supplies from roofed-up solar

from big solar farms, from wind farms,

from energy storage systems, from pumped hydro and coal and gas,

yes, still, but much, much less.

And it's a fascinate, reason i'm just i think it's worth if you don't live in australia and you have nothing to do with australia it's worth watching simply

because what is going taking place there is kind of giving us a clue as to how we will adapt our

grids to cope with enormous increases in electricity demand,

particularly from data centres, interestingly.

That's the main challenge for the global grid at the moment.

It's not electric cars, electric cars that make very little impact.

But data centres literally beat the living daylights out of our electricity grid and the way we generate and use power.

So we should be very aware that anyone who waffles on about how amazing data centers are needs to be pummeled as well.

Anyway, that's just my own beef.

But it is fascinating to see what is happening there and how quickly it's changing.

It's so rapid. It's so incredibly the shift is happening so quickly. Just before we start, I just

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