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The Times Tech Podcast

Can Europe rely on Silicon Valley in the age of Trump tariffs?

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Tech, Business News, News, Interviews, Business Analysis, Ai, Business, Artificial Intelligence, Silicon Valley, Technology

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

World leaders in Davos are talking about 'tech sovereignty', but can Europe or the UK really achieve digital autonomy when so much of the AI and cloud infrastructure is controlled by a handful of US firms? Danny and Katie talk to Hany Farid about the geopolitics of tech, and the fear of an 'AI kill switch' - is this scaremongering or a real concern?


Guest: Hany Farid, UC Berkeley professor and Co‑Founder & Chief Science Officer at GetReal Security.

Image: Getty


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Time Stack podcast where every week we unpack how technology is reshaping business, culture and everyday life.

0:13.5

I am Danny Fortson here in Silicon Valley.

0:17.2

And I'm Katie Prescott here in London.

0:20.5

Danny, we are, neither of us at all for once

0:24.5

where the action is. Are you sad? I am actually. The action, I would say this week, is in Davos,

0:31.9

where all the world leaders are gathered together in the middle of what feels like total chaos.

0:38.2

And actually, I'm not normally jealous about people who go to Davos, but I do feel a bit of

0:42.6

FOMO.

0:43.7

Seeing your esteemed president confusing the names of Greenland and Iceland.

0:51.4

They both have land in the name.

0:53.2

I guess both cold places in front of such an extraordinary audience of tech leaders and business

1:02.6

leaders and government leaders while all of this is exploding would be really cool.

1:10.0

Well, so should we just set the scene?

1:12.0

What is exploding?

1:13.1

Because I think this kind of gets to the big question

1:16.4

that we're going to try to talk about this week.

1:17.9

So your esteemed President Donald Trump wants Greenland,

1:22.3

or Iceland,

1:23.0

and has been threatening tariffs on European countries

1:25.6

that don't agree with the plan.

1:28.1

He now seems to have rode back on that idea, maybe, who knows,

1:32.6

but I have to say, it has made a lot of big players here in Europe incredibly nervous.

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