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On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

Can 'colorblindness' lead to equality in America?

On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

WBUR

Talk Show, News, On Point, Daily, Npr

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In his new book "The End of Race Politics," Coleman Hughes argues that closing racial divides in America means building a color-blind society. Coleman Hughes joins Meghna Chakrabarti.

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On Point is WBUR’s award-winning, daily public radio show and podcast. Every weekday, host Meghna Chakrabarti leads provocative conversations that help make sense of the world.

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Chuck Rabardi. Coleman Hughes traces his ancestry back to an enslaved man who was forced to work on Thomas Jefferson's

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Montecello Plantation.

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His grandfather was a highly educated black man who was told not to apply for a management job because white colleagues would resent working for him.

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Hughes's father is black. His mother was Puerto Rican who hailed from the South Bronx in New York.

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So does all that give you a pretty good understanding of who Coleman Hughes is?

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Well, Hughes himself would say, with absolute certainty, no.

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Telling you the story about the color of his skin tells you next to nothing about who he is, Hughes would say.

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In fact, I believe he'd say that by beginning today's show with a racial description, we've fallen hard into what he calls

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the pernicious intellectual trap that claims race is the most salient fact about any American.

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In fact Coleman Hughes would go farther. He says there are

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