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The Take

Can Brazil convict Bolsonaro and stand up to Trump?

The Take

Al Jazeera

News, Daily News, Politics, News Commentary

4.7748 Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Brazil’s former president is under house arrest after its Supreme Court found Jair Bolsonaro had violated social media and political messaging rules. Now on trial for an alleged coup attempt, President Trump has called Bolsonaro’s prosecution a “witch hunt” and hit Brazil with 50% tariffs, an interference President Lula calls a breach to national sovereignty.

In this episode:

  • Maria Martha Bruno, journalist, Agência Pública

Episode credits:

This episode was produced by Tracie Hunte, Noor Wazwaz, Amy Walters, Sonia Bhagat and Diana Ferrero, with Phillip Lanos, Spencer Cline, Melanie Marich, Kisaa Zehra, Marya Khan, and Malika Bilal. It was edited by Kylene Kiang.

Our sound designer is Alex Roldan. Our video editors are Hisham Abu Salah and Mohannad Al-Melhem. Alexandra Locke is The Take’s executive producer. Ney Alvarez is Al Jazeera’s head of audio.

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0:00.0

Al Jazeera Podcasts.

0:07.0

Today, Brazil under pressure, as U.S. President Trump defends his ally, Jaiyre Bolsonaro.

0:18.0

The tariffs have no commercial motive.

0:21.3

They're political and personal.

0:23.0

We can only hope common sense will prevail.

0:26.6

Now the popular and polarizing former president is placed under house arrest.

0:32.6

So what's next?

0:35.5

I'm Malika Bilal and this is The Take.

0:42.3

I'm Maria Marta Bruno. I am the coordinator for international partnerships at Agenza Publica.

0:51.3

We are a non-profit investigative newsroom in Brazil. I am a former producer

0:57.0

for Al Jazeera and for NBC News. Maria Marza, welcome to the take. It's really good to have you

1:03.2

here. Let's start near the sands of Copacabana, that iconic crescent-shaped beach in Rio de Janeiro,

1:13.0

where supporters of former far-right president Jail Bolsonaro gathered on Sunday at a rally. Set the scene for us. What was happening,

1:21.7

and how did it lead to a judge ordering Bolsonaro to house arrest?

1:26.8

Copacabana is a classic setting for Bolsonaro's supporters' rally.

1:32.8

He's been doing this for many, many years.

1:36.9

That's the place where they get her to protest or to support Bolsonaro when he was in office

1:43.6

and when he, after he lost the election.

1:47.0

So the last rally in Copacabana Beach had one of Bolsonaro's sons, a senator,

1:55.0

Flavio Bolsonaro, on stage.

2:00.0

The problem that took place was that he did a live stream of Bolsonaro, a former President

2:08.8

Bolsonaro, while President Bolsonaro was in his house in Brasilia, saluting, cheering to the

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