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Hello and welcome to Coffee How Shots, the spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Max Jeffrey and I'm joined by James Falsyth and James Heal.

So it's the last day of the Tory leadership campaign. James How's it gone?

Well Max, I'm glad to see that we managed to thoroughly make it always impossible to present this podcast by having two people called James On It.

No, but it's the last day the two candidates have been kind of pushing hard.

I mean there's a difference which is I mean the trust campaign just want to get through today about any slip ups.

The student campaign has been far more energetic because obviously the polls have been significantly behind and and they are still for that reason kind of scrapping and out there.

I think we will then have a slightly odd weekend. I think the candidates will be doing some media stuff but limited in what they can say and then on Monday we will obviously a lunch time will get the result.

But then again remember they don't actually become Prime Minister until the Tuesday when Boris Johnson goes about more to resign and then make up see the Queen and come back to London.

So we won't actually be hearing from them as a country as Prime Minister until about tea time on the Tuesday.

So this process which feels like it's gone on for a very long time isn't done yet.

And I think one of the challenges for whoever wins is the speed with which people will be expecting them to set out their plans.

I think this is one of one of the things which is you know Lidstrasse for example you talk about our kind of fiscal event now because you just want to do a budget because that will get the OBR openly interested.

She talks about doing that and the before the parliament goes into recess for party conference season in normal times that is very very quick.

But I think people are so worried about this crisis and there has been so long without a government saying well this is what we're going to do.

But I think almost from the moment that she is standing on steps of Downing Street there will be people saying well where's the answer.

I want the precise details of how much of this how much about you know what what what is what is the policy and I think you also saw interestingly in David Frost column in the telegraph of this morning.

You know some of the challenges from the right which is so far what we've heard a lot in this contest is you know people you know after her no handouts into the financial times.

I mean probably all agree that she has tried to recalibrate her position from there.

But I mean the challenge now for her is having her moved steadily that you know what they've also well you know if she does more handouts or more energy price caps will know that she's not the answer.

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