Can Ancient Faith Heal Modern Burnout? | Josh Nadeau (Bonus Episode)
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Diane Boden
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
Note: I have listeners of all faith backgrounds that listen to the podcast. This episode is coming from a christian perspective so if that’s something that doesn’t fit what you’re looking for, check out the other episode that dropped this week or join me back here next Tuesday for a conversation that you don’t want to miss!
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In this episode, Diane sits down with philosopher, artist, and founder of Sword and Pencil, Josh Nadeau, to talk about his book, Heaven Meets Earth: A 40-Day Journey of Transformation Through the Nicene Creed. Josh explains how the Nicene Creed - written in 325 and foundational to historic Christian belief - can serve as a stabilizing anchor in a time marked by distraction, burnout, and cultural noise. We discuss how intentional living can take shape through small, daily practices, and how this 40-day journey invites just 5–15 minutes a day of reflection, prayer, and art. Josh shares how ancient rhythms like silence, fasting, and structured prayer can feel freeing rather than restrictive when rooted in relationship with Christ. We also explore how beauty, art, and contemplation can help reorient our attention and deepen our faith, offering a grounded, accessible way to engage spirituality in everyday life.
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- Previous Episode: "Art is the Signature of Man" | Jake Weidmann (EP53)
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- Substack: https://substack.com/@everydaysaints
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swordandpencil/
- Book: Heaven Meets Earth: A 40-Day Journey of Transformation Through the Nicene Creed
About Josh|
Josh Nadeau (nuh-doh) is an artist, writer and creative theologian from the west coast of Canada. Beauty is his apologetic, and his work seeks to translate ancient ideas of embodying the transcendent for a modern time. His art and writing invite Christians to recover the “holy ordinary” and behold the beauty of Jesus in everyday life. He has appeared on numerous podcasts, contributed to magazines and websites, and created art for Jordan Peterson’s History of Western Civilization, The Chosen, Searock, Vuvivo, the Daily Wire, and other churches and organizations. Josh holds an undergraduate degree in physics, a master’s degree in theological studies and—as he quips—a doctorate from the School of Hard Knocks. He is a husband, father, reader, boulderer and explorer of every good and perfect gift
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| 0:00.0 | For those of you that are new around here, I release bonus episodes that serve a niche part of my audience. |
| 0:05.9 | This episode is coming from a Christian perspective, so if that's not something you're interested in, |
| 0:10.5 | check out one of the other episodes that dropped this week, or join me back to your next week for episodes that you don't want to miss. |
| 0:17.2 | St. Basil said this. He was like a Cappadocian Church father in around the year 300. He said, |
| 0:23.8 | we fell from Eden because we didn't know how to fast. And when you think about a minimal life, |
| 0:30.1 | an intentional life, to be like, listen, because we couldn't say no to one fruit, we lost paradise. |
| 0:35.7 | When I think about ancient rhythms, a fasting rule is so important. |
| 0:40.1 | Teaching yourself, body and soul, heart, soul, mind, and strength to learn how to say no. |
| 0:45.8 | Dude, you will be so far ahead in your spiritual walk, just in life in general. |
| 0:50.9 | This is Diane Bowden, and you're listening to the minimalist moms podcast. Today's guest |
| 0:55.4 | offers a different approach to faith, one that's slower, quieter, and rooted in practices |
| 1:00.5 | that have been shaping people for centuries. Because in a world that often feels so loud, |
| 1:05.2 | fast, and overwhelming, it can be easy for our spiritual lives to feel scattered or even a bit |
| 1:10.0 | untethered. |
| 1:16.7 | In today's episode, I'm joined by Joshua Nudo, philosopher, artist, and founder of sword and pencil to talk about his book, Heaven Meets Earth, which walks through the Nicene Creed, |
| 1:21.5 | a statement of belief that's been around for nearly 1700 years, and explores how it can |
| 1:25.9 | still shape our lives today. |
| 1:29.0 | We talk about what it looks like to engage faith through small daily rhythms, how practices like silence and prayer can actually |
| 1:34.2 | create more freedom and why beauty and what we give our attention to matter more than we might |
| 1:38.9 | think. This conversation is a helpful reminder that formation often happens slowly through what we return to each day. |
| 1:46.7 | If you enjoy this episode today, make sure you hit five stars or share it with a friend that |
| 1:50.8 | could also benefit from the content. And with that, let's get into this conversation with Josh. |
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