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podcasts. Hello and welcome to the Times Tech podcast with me, Danny Fortson, and only me today, as Katie is away for a couple weeks.

Sadly, it means that unlike last week's episode where we talked about cricket and my weekend in the mountains, there will be none of that.

But even if there's no cricket, there is never a dull day out here in Silicon Valley.

On today's episode, I've been speaking to Sam Rodriguez, a physicist, bioengineer, and co-founder

and CEO of Future House.

This is a nonprofit based in San Francisco that aims to build an

AI scientist, but for what exactly? That is the $64,000 question and one that I put to him.

That's coming up in a little bit. But before we get there, I want to pick up on a few of the big stories that are kind of

happening out here.

And there's a lot going on.

So right at the top, firstly, last week.

Katie and I spoke about the poaching of the best AI talent in Silicon Valley, this huge

talent war that has broken out here.

Sam Altman talked about this in a leaked

memo where he said, quote, quote, what meta is doing will, in my opinion, lead to very deep

cultural problems. And of course, meta, he's talking about Mark Zuckerberg throwing around

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