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Hi Killer Sikie listeners! Today we have a little something different for you. I sat down for a conversation with award-winning actor Paul Chiammati and author and philosopher Stephen Asma on their amazing new podcast, Chinwag.

We talked about everything from serial killers to astrology. And I bet you can already guess my opinions on that.

We had a great time together and I think you will enjoy it as well. Please check out Chinwag wherever you listen to your podcast. We will provide a link in our episode description.

Texas Ranger James Holland is a legendary interrogator. They call him the serial killer Whisperer.

You can't hide those indications and that's why yesterday I knew that you did it.

But now shocking interrogation tapes reveal how the super cup really operates.

And that's why they ask me to come in because I'm special.

From something else, the Marshall Project and Sony Music Entertainment, this is Smoke Screen. Just say you're sorry.

Listen and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Stitcher or wherever you get your podcast.

Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape and found me Rob Briden on my podcast.

In this series of Briden and I talk to among others, Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer. It's terrific conversation, reminiscent swear appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

So do join me Rob Briden wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes of Briden and are available early and ad free on Amazon Music or by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app.

From Wondery and Tree Fort, I'm Candace DeLong and this is the second season of Killer Sighting.

I've spent five decades studying people's minds through my work as an FBI profiler and psychiatric nurse.

I've interviewed lots of murderers, including serial killers. And the question of why they did it is what I get asked time and time again.

It is difficult to get a satisfying answer without diving deep into their mindsets. So that's what we're doing. And I will give you my best analysis in this series of what made them do what they did.

This episode is our conversation with the host of the podcast Chinwag.

Hello, our guest today is Candace DeLong, a former FBI criminal profiler and psychiatric nurse.

Yeah, she has actually been called the real life Clarice Starling. And she has a hit weekly podcast called Killer Sighting.

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