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The Daily

Can a Bad Man Be a Good Father?

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The writer Tom Junod has spent a career crafting profiles for men’s magazines like GQ and Esquire, often of famously complicated men like Norman Mailer, Kevin Spacey and Tony Curtis. But another man loomed behind Junod’s interest in these figures, informing his own sense of masculinity and manhood: his father, Lou. Lou Junod was handsome, charismatic — a man who seemed like a celebrity, even though he wasn’t famous. He was also mysterious, a keeper of secrets that have continued to reverberate through his son’s life. On today’s episode, Michael Barbaro talks with Junod about his new book, “In the Days of My Youth I Was Told What It Means to Be a Man,” which is part memoir and part detective story, as well as a powerful meditation on fatherhood.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bobarrow.

0:04.9

This is the Daily on Sunday.

0:08.6

The writer Tom Juneau is a student of flawed men.

0:13.9

In a long and varied career in American magazines at places like GQ and Esquire,

0:19.8

Tom profiled complicated figures like Norman Mailer, Kevin Spacey, and Tony Curtis.

0:26.7

But in all of those profiles, another flawed man loomed in the background,

0:32.6

one who informed how Tom thought about the very nature of masculinity and manhood.

0:39.7

And that was his father, Lou, a man who had a life full of secrets.

0:47.1

Tom's relationship with his dad is the subject of his new book, which is part memoir and part

0:54.1

detective story. It's called,

0:56.3

in the days of my youth, I was told what it means to be a man. And it's a powerful meditation

1:03.1

on what we need from a father, what we inherit from a father, and how we somehow make peace

1:10.0

with the gap in between those.

1:13.7

Today, on Father's Day, my conversation with Tom Juneau.

1:19.9

It's Sunday, June 21st.

1:29.4

Tom.

1:30.4

Michael.

1:31.7

Welcome to the Sunday Daily.

1:33.2

It's so great to be here.

1:34.3

It's an honor to have you.

1:42.7

Can I ask you to read from the eulogy that you read at your father's funeral?

1:44.2

Sure. I believe it's father's funeral. Sure.

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