Oh, hey, hey, y'all. It's me Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular culture as the most important kind of culture. We celebrated here, and we ripped the shit apart. And to do that, we pit a pair of entertainers against each other in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win it, each of them will be called upon to use their smarts, their

argument skills, the great comebacks that they have been saving up in their brain to earn

the coveted Troubled Waters title Pundit, Emeritus, which will automatically give their opinion

on whether a film or an animated Grinch is superior. Although it's animated. I don't need to see people on Grinch masks. I sure don't need to see people in Whoville makeup. Like that's just that that was the way that Dr. Seuss drew people. You don't need, we don't need to live in a world where the Hoos live like that and look like that. And Molly Shannon has a nose that's in the middle of her forehead. I don't need it.

I'm sorry.

I was distracted.

You're listening to Troubled Waters.

Shepardt. Now let's meet our guests, shall we?

Our first contestant is in Connecticut for the holidays.

Isn't that delightful?

It's a Hallmark Channel movie come to life.

He is an actor.

He is the host of the podcast.

No such thing.

It's Noah Friedman.

Welcome, Noah.

Thanks for having me.

I'm excited.

Thank you for being here. You look as though you are in a West Elm bed in a parent's spare bedroom, perhaps.

That's that's about right. I'm not sure the provenance of this particular bed, but that sounds about right.

Possible for sure. Great. Tell me about no such thing. Let's see, we launched it almost exactly

one year ago to the date. We put our episodes every week. Basically, the concept is me, Devin,

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