Cambodia, a nation transformed
Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast
The Independent
3.6 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 25 November 2025
⏱️ 7 minutes
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I first visited Cambodia in 1993, as the south east Asian country was recovering from the genocide of the appalling Khmer Rouge regime under the dictatorship of Pol Pot. In 2025, Global Travel Editor Annabel Grossman has just returned from Cambodia and describes a nation transformed – except for the warm welcome that visitors enjoy.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me, Simon Calder. It's Tuesday the 25th of November. |
| 0:07.0 | That means it's a month till Christmas and where better to escape the cold midwinter than in, say, Southeast Asia. |
| 0:17.4 | Even better. That part of it known as Indo-China, and even better than that, the nation of Cambodia. |
| 0:25.6 | It's a place I first visited in 1993. |
| 0:31.0 | Yes, I was very young, thanks, and that was way before, I think, my excellent colleague, Global Travel Editor, Annabel Grossman, was born. |
| 0:40.6 | But you've just returned from there. |
| 0:43.0 | I have, yes. |
| 0:44.0 | So I was born when you first visited or when you last visited in the 90s, but I was very young. |
| 0:49.3 | And I imagine Cambodia looked rather different then to when I visited a couple of weeks ago. I think it's |
| 0:55.3 | quite interesting. Simon, you sent me through the article that you had written after visiting |
| 0:59.7 | in the early 90s was it. And I read that while I was Iipton-on-Fa-en. And actually, although things do |
| 1:05.9 | look a little bit different, there were so many similarities that I noticed straight away. |
| 1:10.5 | Number one, I think it might be one of the |
| 1:13.0 | most welcoming and friendly countries that I've ever visited. And that's something I always look out for |
| 1:17.8 | when I'm traveling and when I'm recommending places to travel is to visit places where people |
| 1:22.2 | really want you there and that you can be a real benefit to the country as a traveller. |
| 1:29.6 | It's a good place to spend your tourist dollars. |
| 1:32.6 | And I felt that from the article you wrote, |
| 1:35.8 | that people were interested in you, but it wasn't overwhelming. |
| 1:40.7 | It was friendly and welcoming, but without being too kind of stressful. |
| 1:47.3 | In the early 1990s, it was just recovering from the terrible Pol Pot era in which there was the most dreadful genocide. And actually, the way you would get around Cambodia was |
| 1:53.9 | basically spotting a United Nations land cruiser and flagging it down. And if you were a European, |
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