Calvinistic Proof Texts for Determinism
Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers
Leighton Flowers
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🗓️ 8 August 2023
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Brian Wagner, Instructor of Theology, Church History, and Biblical Languages at Veritas Baptist College, joins Dr. Leighton Flowers to talk about the most common proof texts used by Calvinists to prove theistic determinism (the concept that God decrees whatsoever comes to pass) ---such as Isaiah 46:10; Ephesians 1:11; Ps. 139:16 and Lam. 3:37-38.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to SoTriology 101, the show that was predestined to happen. |
| 0:15.1 | And with us today is Dr. Brian Wagner, a professor of theology and biblical languages at Veritas Baptist College. |
| 0:22.8 | And you know, Brian, he's been on before. |
| 0:24.9 | We're having a little bit of internet connection, so we're praying that he will come through strong. |
| 0:29.2 | But Brian, welcome back to the program. |
| 0:31.8 | Amen. |
| 0:32.1 | Thank you, Leighton, for the invitation to come back and looking forward to our discussion of various scriptures. |
| 0:38.3 | And hey, it's all predestined. |
| 0:40.3 | Yeah, exactly. |
| 0:41.3 | We'll see. |
| 0:42.3 | We'll see what happens. |
| 0:43.3 | I had a guy yesterday. |
| 0:45.3 | Hey, I had a guy yesterday who actually was trying to push super determinism. |
| 0:52.3 | And I, you know, talked with him for briefly and then I said I you know |
| 0:56.1 | there's nothing more for me to share and then he he said I wasn't letting him finish you |
| 1:02.3 | know I said well you're not predestined to finish yeah I guess not well and we do speak |
| 1:08.7 | tongue in cheek on some of that but but we do also know that when you |
| 1:12.6 | hold to what Tim Stratton has called EDD, exhausted divine determinism, the concept and idea that |
| 1:19.3 | God has decreed whatsoever comes to pass. Every molecule, as Arsus Spruill talks about it, is determined |
| 1:26.0 | ultimately to move exactly as God has governed it to move. |
| 1:29.5 | The wills and thoughts of men, even Calvin says, have been governed by God or governed by God. |
| 1:36.9 | And so obviously there are various non-Calvinistic theological and philosophical perspectives out there. |
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