Red Grace Media did a podcast on the debate, and I wanted to interact with some of these brothers' critique.

So let's dive in.

Emilio Ramos with Red Grace Media pastor here in the Dallas area.

He's the one who helped sponsor the debate, the one who initially contacted me to ask if I would be willing to debate Dr. White.

And they critique the debate.

And I wanted you to hear from them because I think this is more of the debate that I was

expecting, honestly.

Now, obviously, they've got more time here than a structure of a debate.

But what I want to commend this podcast on is what you'll notice is that they're

engaging with me in my points of view. Instead. what I want to commend this, this podcast on it is what you'll notice is that they're engaging

with me in my points of view. Instead of, I think, taking the approach of Layton didn't deal with

the text, Layton didn't exeatheed the text, so I'm not going to deal with him or his arguments.

I think these brothers are taking a different approach, approach that I was expecting.

And so I appreciate that about them.

And I want you to hear directly from them and then we'll interact.

I think both of the men did a great job in this debate.

I want to command again Professor Flowers for the way that he handled the debate.

Of course, I disagree with his exegesis. I disagree. I'm not going to

so much call him on, well, he didn't approach Romans 9 or he didn't handle Romans 9. Well,

apparently he did. He did talk about the text. He did mention the verses. Maybe it wasn't to our

satisfaction, but he did interact with the text.

So that's not what I want to focus on. I want to focus on with the content that he actually gave

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