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Sinica Podcast

Calming the waters of the South China Sea and beyond

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2016

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This episode, Jeremy and Kaiser head to the U.S. Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island, to speak with Professor Lyle Goldstein, the author of Meeting China Halfway: How to Defuse the Emerging US-China Rivalry. Lyle discusses how the United States could accommodate China’s rise without sacrificing American interests by using “cooperation spirals,” the opposite of an escalation spiral. His ideas are sure to surprise those who believe everyone connected to the U.S. military is a hawk. Please take a listen and send feedback to [email protected], or leave a review on iTunes. Recommendations: Jeremy: America’s War for the Greater Middle East: A Military History by Andrew J. Bacevich China vs. USA: Empires at War (2007) directed by Anthony Dufour, on Youtube and Amazon Prime Lyle: The Sand Pebbles by Richard McKenna Kaiser: The Three Body Trilogy by Liu Cixin: The Three-Body Problem translated by Ken Liu The Dark Forest translated by Joel Martinsen Death’s End translated by Ken Liu See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Cynical Podcast, a week in discussion in current affairs in China, produced in partnership with SubChina.

0:15.1

SubChina offers a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world.

0:21.2

We're coming to you this week from the campus of the U.S. Naval War College at Narragansett Bay,

0:26.2

Newport, Rhode Island. I'm Kaiser Guo.

0:28.2

Join this week by the man who stands atthroat the rejuvenation of the great Chinese nation yelling,

0:32.0

stop our own.

0:34.1

Jeremy Goldcorn, aka. Jimi Umi, Jeremy, man. How are you?

0:37.5

Doing very, very well indeed.

0:38.7

My first trip to Rhode Island, and it's lovely.

0:41.4

Yeah, we were given a tour of the U.S. Naval History Museum here, and that was amazing, really cool.

0:47.6

I'll post some pictures that I just snapped while we were there.

0:50.3

Very cool stuff.

0:51.8

Some of you may recall that a couple months ago, maybe like six

0:55.0

months ago, I recommended a book on this show called Meeting China Halfway, How to Diffuse the

1:00.4

Emerging U.S.-China Rivalry by Lyle Goldstein. It's a remarkable book that I sincerely hope

1:05.6

you will read, that will be read not only in U.S. policy circles, but also by Chinese foreign policy analysts

1:12.1

and decision makers, as it offers what, to me, at least, some of the most informed and courageous

1:16.9

and original thinking, the bilateral relationship that I've come across. Indeed, the word that, I guess,

1:22.8

comes up most often when I raise the book with people, and I've been doing that very often with various

1:28.0

China Watcher types, is the word original. To me, that's what's most important. This does more than

1:34.0

just urge empathy and enhanced mutual understanding. It actually offers a set of concrete proposals,

1:40.3

of cooperation spirals, which are counterposed to, indeed, which are intended to help us to

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