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The Way Out Is In

Calm in the Storm Q&R, Part Two (Episode #101)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Buddhism, Mental Health, Education, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 5 March 2026

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to a new episode of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. This special episode – the last of two question-and-response (Q&R) installments – marks the publication of the second book by Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach Jo Confino. Calm in the Storm: Zen Ways to Cultivate Stability in an Anxious World is intended to help readers meet the current polycrisis with love and stability, but also forcefulness and resilience.  According to Plum Village tradition, Jo and Brother Phap Huu recorded two episodes responding to questions by listeners which connect to the book’s themes. In this second part they answer questions on dealing with anxious thoughts, raising children in uncertain times, reacting to the anger of those around us, managing fears and hypochondria, and much more.  Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/  And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resources  Being with Busyness: Zen Ways to Transform Overwhelm and Burnouthttps://www.parallax.org/product/being-with-busyness/    Calm in the Storm: Zen Ways to Cultivate Stability in an Anxious Worldhttps://www.parallax.org/product/calm-in-the-storm/  The Way Out Is In: ‘Calm in the Storm Q&R, Part One (Episode #97)’https://plumvillage.org/podcast/calm-in-the-storm-qr-part-one-episode-97  Interbeinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing   Plum Village Traditionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Village_Tradition  ‘The Fourteen Mindfulness Trainings’https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/the-14-mindfulness-trainings  Ursula K. Le Guinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin  The Sun My Hearthttps://www.parallax.org/product/the-sun-my-heart/  Quotes “If Buddhism is not engaged, it’s not Buddhism.” “We have to study the meaning of calm, because when we say ‘calm’ or ‘sitting meditation’, that may look like non-action. But what we have seen in some of the most impactful work is that, when people take the time to be still, to listen, and to embrace and hold feelings and emotions and these projects in a calm manner, they are able to direct, lead, and not be carried away with the force field of anxiety, of fear, of restlessness.”  “Mindfulness is only true mindfulness if it’s generating love and compassion.”  “We can say so many things about Buddhist history and Buddhist philosophy, but what the Buddha transmitted to us and really wanted was for us to ask the question, ‘How can I put these practices into daily life?’” “When everything is changing, the most important thing is to also know what needs to remain the same.”  “Our mindfulness should not be a blockage to other people’s engagement with us – but, at the same time, we do have to have boundaries. We do have to have clarity.”  “Mindfulness is to lead an ethical life. If you’re practicing mindfulness and you’re continuing to cause harm to the earth, to living beings, to yourself and your loved ones, maybe that is wrong mindfulness. As Thay said, ‘Is the burglar mindful?’”

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0:00.0

Dear friends, if you have a deep love for the earth and wish to learn how to bring the energy of mindfulness to your climate response,

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Zen and the art of saving the planet is a seven-week online learning journey,

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where we as a community will learn how to cultivate insight, compassion, community, and mindful action in service for our beloved earth.

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Inspired by the timeless wisdom of Zen Master Tignan, this course includes Dalmatogs and practices,

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community sharing groups, and live interactive events with monastic teachers.

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I'm looking forward to teaching at these live events together with my

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monastic siblings. We'll learn together for seven weeks from 1st of March, 2026, into our closing

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event on 19th of April. Join us by heading to the website today, plumvillage.org slash

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ZAS, that is ZASP, and we look forward to walking on this path

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with you. Thank you very much.

1:01.6

Dear friends, welcome to this latest episode of the podcast series The Way Out is In.

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A La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La the way out is in.

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I am Joe Confino, working at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change.

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And I'm Brother Fabhu, a Zen Buddhist monk student of Zen Master Tickinghand in the Plum Village tradition.

1:43.6

And today, dear listeners, we are going to have a second bite of the apple.

1:47.9

And what that means is we're doing another question and response session to mark the launch of our book, Calm in the Storm.

1:52.8

And we love this, actually, don't we, Fat Pooh?

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Because we get the chance to just listen to what people's concerns are

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and then respond to them in the moment

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and we don't know what we're going to say.

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Perhaps who doesn't know what the questions are, so it's going to be a little bit of a surprise.

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The way out to this in.

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