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The Gist

Calling It: Brian Rosenwald

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

On the Gist, Mike checks in with this Lawfare piece, and the U.S. Elections Project. In the interview, Mike talks with Brian Rosenwald, a media historian and fellow at the University of Pennsylvania, about how election night might play out. They discuss the idea of a red mirage, how Republican governors can bring order to things, and how far-right talk radio is going to digest the results. Rosenwald is the author of Talk Radio's America: How an Industry Took Over a Political Party That Took Over the United States. In the spiel, Trump's bad surrogates. Email us at thegist@slate.com Podcast production by Daniel Schroeder and Margaret Kelley. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

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0:15.0

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0:21.0

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0:25.0

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0:26.0

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0:30.0

Following program may contain language that is explicit and by explicit, I mean implicitly not two words.

0:42.0

It's Wednesday, October 21st, 2020 from Slate. It's the gist I'm Mike Pesca, day three of our calling it.

0:49.0

Coverage of the coverage that could cover us in sludge.

0:53.0

The idea that Republicans could look strong on election day regular snaffos and balloting could trans-mogify from not so cute memes into not at all benign cultural myths.

1:04.0

We'll be talking with an historian and monitor of right-wing talking points today to know the arguments that might be coming down the pike.

1:13.0

We need to be on guard and to be informed. And the informed part is what I would like to talk about right here.

1:19.0

So in 2016, I was very taken with the polls and the prognostications based on the polls.

1:25.0

I always try to reflect the consensus of the best forecasts.

1:28.0

A likely but not certainly Hillary Clinton win. On the show I would always say she has a two thirds to 75% chance of winning.

1:35.0

I even liken those chances to a baseball team making a comeback down to in the fifth or down one in the seventh.

1:42.0

Whatever the appropriate baseball odds were. I don't know of any of their contacts prepared you or me for Hillary Clinton actually losing.

1:51.0

Now I think it might be because let's say the raise beat the Dodgers, what would that mean?

1:56.0

It would mean that the raise of the World Series champions. But when Trump beats Clinton or if Trump beats Biden, what that means is that Trump is the president of the United States.

2:07.0

So the lack of preparation for the eventuality might have a lot to do with the difference between Mookie Betts being sad and a kleptocracy being given the green light.

2:17.0

So this year, much less invested in what the polls say.

2:20.0

Oh, I see Gav538 or really it seeks me out after you've signed up for a newsletter or subscribe to a podcast.

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