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On Health for Women

Calling In the Call-Out Culture with Loretta J. Ross

On Health for Women

Aviva Romm

Alternative Health, Arts, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2022

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

We're living in a time when collective solutions and open dialogue are needed more than ever, but the rise of call-out and cancel-culture has left many important conversations silent. This week, I welcome the absolutely iconic feminist and activist, Loretta J. Ross. Loretta is flipping the script with her newly coined term, "Call-In Culture," and on today’s episode, we learn exactly what that term means and its impact on cancel culture. Loretta is a trailblazer in the reproductive rights movement, and we speak about the major phenomenon she calls "horizontal canceling" and its impact on the effectiveness of movements. Hopefully, this conversation expands your understanding of how we can connect and influence, rather than silence, to create change. Aviva and Loretta discuss: The incredibly challenging obstacles Loretta faced growing up, including sexual abuse and an unintended pregnancy at fourteen, and how these experiences led to her work in reproductive rights, becoming one of the first African American women to direct a rape crisis center and coining of the term reproductive justice. How Loretta defines calling-in, her take on why people tend to go after more vulnerable targets, and the impacts of fierce individualism on community well-bering How calling-out is showing up in the reproductive rights movement, the risks of horizontal canceling, and what we can do about it The meanings of the "woking dead" and “circles of influence” and the impacts both have on our culture Loretta J. Ross is a fierce and formidable women’s health rights activist for over four decades now and co-coined the term reproductive justice. She currently teaches courses on white supremacy, human rights, and calling in the calling out culture at Smith College's Program for the Study of Women and Gender. Loretta was the National Coordinator of the SisterSong Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective and the National Co-Director of the 2004 March for Women’s Lives in Washington, D.C., the largest protest march in U.S. history at that time. She founded the National Center for Human Rights Education and launched the Women of Color Program for the National Organization for Women. She has co-written 3 books on reproductive justice and has a forthcoming book called Calling In the Calling Out Culture. Find out more about Loretta and sign up for her courses at lorettajross.com. Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in to your body, yourself, and this podcast! Please share the love by sending this to someone in your life who could benefit from the kinds of things we talk about in this space. Make sure to follow your host on Instagram @dr.avivaromm and go to avivaromm.com to join the conversation. Follow Loretta @LorettaJRoss.

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Calling in will be as important in the 21st century to the human rights movement as non-violence

0:13.2

was to the civil rights movement in the 20th century, a statement of our value based

0:19.4

on how we do the work.

0:21.2

I am deeply concerned that in this age of social media and this age of instant gratification

0:29.9

that people are trying to do the right thing the wrong way, they think that they're supposed

0:37.2

to call each other out with each other and shame people or bully them for wrong thinking

0:46.0

in wrong speech.

0:48.5

And I don't agree with that.

0:52.4

From this stuff your mother never told you to the stuff your doctor never learned, on health

0:57.0

is what happens when a midwife plus a Yale-trained MD shares about all things women's health.

1:03.0

From periods to menopause, sex to reproductive health politics, motherhood to mental health.

1:08.6

Join me for taboo busting conversations that demystify and destigmatize our bodies all

1:14.2

while bridging the gap between conventional medicine and wellness.

1:17.9

Along the way we'll be exploring the science and wisdom of how our bodies work, what makes

1:22.2

us well, what gets in the way and how we can live our best lives on our terms.

1:27.7

When it comes to women's health and well-being, there's nothing we won't talk about.

1:31.6

The new medicine for women is here.

1:33.4

I'm Dr. Revivaram, and welcome to the podcast.

1:44.0

In a time when we need collective solutions to increasingly serious challenges to our democracy,

1:49.9

we need open dialogue more than ever.

1:52.5

Yet we're living in a time when being called out or canceled can ruin careers and even

1:57.4

lives, with the collateral damage of closing off necessary dialogue and shutting down

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