Okay, we are alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey investigates on today's show of a very special guest. His name is John D. Herrera, last name, D-E-H-E-R-R-A. And Robert Frederick reached out to me and said, hey, you should have this guy in your show. You can talk about this kind of concept of the Article 5 convention.

Actual constitutional law, like actual legal procedure, something kind of novel considering

the Biden administration, but a means by which people can kind of redress complaints.

I don't think it's ever been used.

There's been other means of amendments to the Constitution, usually through Congress,

but this is like closer to kind of people and individuals through the states. But John can talk

more about that. So John, welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Excellent. So for people who haven't heard your name or may not be familiar with these kind of concepts or ideas,

maybe you can talk about your background, how you got interested in this, and then maybe you can read

from Article 5 of the Constitution, and then we can go from there.

Okay.

I first found out about the convention clause of Article 5 in high school.

Uh, this was, uh, Calabasas high school in the late 70s.

It was a social science class and there was, you know, basically detailing some horrible parts

of history. And I'm like, this is ridiculous. We, you know, we can do better. So I actually went

and found a copy of the Constitution, read it. I found the convention clause then. And I said, oh, well, we just got to have a

convention. Then I went on to, you know, be, you know, stereotypical surfer dude in California,

artist, poet. And then in the late 90s, the writer Gore V. Dahl, I read one of his essays, and he talked about

a constitutional convention. And then 9-11 happened. And knowing history, I knew that 9-11 was going to create a vacuum of power.

The bad guys were going to get in there and start doing stuff, you know, Patriot Act, you know, all that kind of stuff.

So I really, it was a couple of days after 9-11 that I said, I'm going to do whatever I can to bring about a convention.

And then, so I carried on there for a couple of years, reading everything I could.

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