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So my guest today, Chase Jarvis grew up in Seattle's typical skateboard kid and music

and to soccer and to college. Then made this really abrupt turn when his grandfather

who he loved passed and left him the camera and that profoundly changed the direction

of his life, leading him into the world of photography, kind of finding his own way,

completely bucking the system to become a big name photographer in the world of action

sports and beyond. And then moving into the world of entrepreneurship and service and

contribution where he built a giant company called Creative Live, which has taught tens

of millions of people how to essentially build creative lives and living and his a new

book out now called Creative Calling. So Chase has been on the podcast before many years

ago actually in the very early days. Funny enough, both that time and this time we ended

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