Houston, we have a podcast. Welcome to the official podcast of the NASA Johnson Space Center,

episode 361, call sign, Gold Flight. I'm Leah Cheshire and I'll be your host today. On this podcast,

we bring in the experts, scientists, engineers, and astronauts, all to let you know what's going on

in the world of human spaceflight and more. The foundations of human space exploration, as we know it today, were born at Johnson Space

Center, and it's one of the greatest honors to speak with some of the trailblazers who helped

open the skies to us forever.

Today's guest is a one-of-a-kind NASA icon, with experience at all levels of the agency. Jerry Griffin started his career in the

U.S. Air Force, later joining NASA in 1964 as a flight controller. He became a flight director

where he led multiple Apollo missions, including the final lunar landing on Apollo 17. He also served as

Deputy Director of Kennedy Space Center and Dryden Flight

Research Center, now known as Armstrong. At NASA headquarters in Washington, D.C., Jerry also held the

posts of Assistant Administrator for Legislative Affairs, Associate Administrator for External Relations,

and Deputy Associate Administrator for Space Flight.

He rounded out his NASA career by coming back to his home state of Texas and serving as

the center director of our very own Johnson Space Center. Let's get started.

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Jerry, thank you so much for joining us today on Houston.

We have a podcast.

Well, glad to be here.

Yeah, it means a lot to have you just come out and sit down and talk about the good old days and what you've been up to lately.

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