You know, so understanding that piece and that's where the agency, you know, really helped out with that and with the diplomatic pouches and

So you you learned at level of warfare at you know at that strategic level and I thought that was really cool. Yeah, in that time frame did you do cover operations where you went with a female into these areas?

Absolutely.

Is that weird at all?

I assume that your cover is you guys are a couple.

Is that correct?

Sometimes.

Sometimes.

Sometimes.

Sometimes we work at that, I don't want to say the name into company, but there's a commercial company that we have our cover off of.

And, you know, we work as, you know, co-workers there, but yeah, there's a couple.

Yeah.

Is that awkward at all where it's like you've never met this person and now you're training

and pretending to be their spouse and like is that a hard thing to pull off?

You actually train together.

You know, you go through a pipeline of training together.

You develop your alias.

You develop your cover story.

So you already have this literally developed before you even hit country, years of operational experience, you know.

Were you married at the time?

Yes.

Yeah.

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