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You are listening to an art media podcast. Israelis understand in the Middle East that you've got to negotiate while fighting.

And Americans don't do that.

Americans fire.

Then we stop.

We do ceasefires.

But we never seem to want to fight and negotiate.

And Israelis just completely don't understand that approach.

I actually think Trump is kind of more Israeli in that

respect. Like, I think he does understand against the Islamic Republic of Iran. He's not going to get

Hormuz open permanently or a nuclear deal that meets his minimum demands without escalating

against the Islamic Republic. And I think he's keeping escalation in his pocket.

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