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California Freelancer Says She Questioned How She Would ‘Survive’ Under This State Law

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🗓️ 16 October 2023

⏱️ 17 minutes

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A freelance writer and editor is speaking out about the negative effects of a recent California law, saying she questioned how she was “going to survive” after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed the legislation, known as AB 5.  “The law ... was signed … on Sept. 18, 2019, and when I woke up that morning and I read about it, you know, the next day, I thought, ‘This is going to be an existential threat to my career,'” recalls Karen Anderson, founder of Freelancers Against AB5, a Facebook group with over 18,000 members. “I’m not going to—how am I going to survive?” Anderson adds of her thoughts at the time. The website of the California Franchise Tax Board notes: “AB 5 is a bill the governor signed into law in September 2019 addressing employment status when a hiring entity claims that the person it hired is an independent contractor.” Anderson says she has worked for almost 25 years as a freelance writer, an editor or managing editor, and a photographer. She says she “started investigating” the state’s new law “and I realized that … it encompassed all professions.” “So golf caddies, videographers, photographers, nurse practitioners, whatever. So I thought, well, I want to find out how it’s affecting other people, not just me,” Anderson says of the law, adding: And so I started this public Facebook group just to see if I could hear some people’s stories and … sure enough, they started coming in in … November and December, people started losing their livelihoods overnight. Anderson, a participant in a recent Heritage Foundation panel discussion, is today’s guest on “The Daily Signal Podcast.” She shares the No. 1 takeaway of the California law with listeners and discusses what’s being done to change it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Daily Signal Podcast for Monday, October 16th.

0:09.7

I'm Samantha Sharis, and joining us today is Karen Anderson, founder of Freelancers

0:14.9

Against AB 5.

0:16.9

As I mentioned on Friday's show, during an event here at the Heritage Foundation titled

0:21.4

21st Century Labor Policies to promote worker freedom, opportunity, and entrepreneurship,

0:27.6

Karen was a member of a panel titled Why Protecting Independence is a Vital for Opportunities

0:33.5

and Flexibility.

0:35.2

Karen joins today's episode to discuss California's AB 5, or Assembly Bill 5, which went into

0:41.5

effect on January 1st, 2020, her group Freelancers Against AB 5, and more.

0:47.3

We'll get to our conversation right after this.

0:57.5

Virginia Allen here, I want to tell you all about a great way you can stay in the know

1:02.2

on all the news the Daily Signal covers.

1:05.4

Social media.

1:06.6

The Daily Signal has an active presence on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

1:11.6

We are constantly posting news stories, clips or interviews, videos, and more across all

1:17.8

our social platforms.

1:19.2

Follow the Daily Signal on social media so you can get all the latest content from Reels

1:24.4

on Instagram, the video clips on Facebook, and a little commentary on Twitter.

1:35.4

Today I have the honor of welcoming Karen Anderson to the Daily Signal podcast.

1:40.4

Karen is the founder of Freelancers Against AB 5.

1:44.1

Thank you for taking the time to speak with us.

1:46.0

Thanks for having me.

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