Hi, I'm Susie Larson. Thanks for listening to this podcast from Susie Larson Live.

Welcome to Sizzy Larson Live. ever since we've got you left.

Welcome to Sizzy Larson Live. Always honored to get to spend this time with you. In fact, I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk, that deepen your understanding of God's word and that heightens your awareness of his very real

presence in your life. Well, my guest today is not only an important voice in today's Christian

culture. To me, he has one of the most amazing faith stories I've ever heard. I'm going to let him

tell his story, but suffice to say, Caleb Kaltenbach grew up with an inside look at the LGBT

community and an outside look at how Christians responded

to those within that community. So I promise you this will be an eye-opening interview. I pray

that you'd just rest your heart, and I pray that you'd listen with an open mind, because where

we're going to go may ruffle some feathers. We're staying biblical. We're staying on task

and, theologically speaking, but we're going to talk about some touchy topics that lots of people

have strong opinions about. Caleb Kaltenbach joins me today to talk about his book,

Messy Truth, How to Foster Community Without Sacrificing Conviction. And we will get him on in just

a moment. Quick announcement, we are in the

process of gathering stories and would love to know. Has Faith Radio helped you grow in your faith in any way?

How has Faith Radio impacted you? We would love to hear about it. If you don't mind, after the show

hop on our website, you can share your story there. You can call the Faith Line after the show,

or you can even text it right here and now. Also want you to know, we've got a handful of copies of Caleb's book,

Messy Truth, How to Foster Community Without Sacrificing Conviction. You can text the word book to

877-933-2484. All right, let me tell you about my guest. We will get him on the show.

Caleb Coltonbach is executive

director of and pastor to pastors through his organization, the messy grace group. He's the author

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