Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and you're listening to Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books.

This 30-minute podcast features a new author interviewed by me every single day, 365 days a year, for about 30 minutes.

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enjoy some of our other offerings but this here podcast is the basis of all of it and started in

2018 and no matter what i do this is basically my of all of it and started in 2018. And no matter what I do, this is basically

my favorite thing. Enjoy it. Caitlin Moran is the author of What About Men? A feminist

answers the question. Caitlin has been on this podcast at least once before, maybe even twice.

Her debut book, How to Be a Woman, was an instant New York Times bestseller. And her first novel, How to Build a Girl, received widespread acclaim. She lives in London. You can follow her on Twitter at Caitlin Morin. Hi. Hey, my darling. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you doing? Really good. Yeah. It's just, oh, God, your background looks so nice.

Thank you.

Yes, my library outfits. So you've color-coded the spines. I did. I have written a column in defense of this, because I remember a couple of years ago, loads of men, I noticed, got really shitty about this and were like, oh, people who color-code their books, like they're just doing it to it to look nice like kind of that's not how a proper book reader would do it first of all what's wrong with things looking nice and secondly if you know and love your books well enough you know exactly what color that spine is and it's just as easy to find them when they're color coded as it is to put them in alphabetical order so it looks amazing well done well. Yeah. I see things in color anyway. Like, I'm like, oh, it's that book. It's like green. Yeah. So that's how my mind works. So it works for me. But I know the color of all my books. I found it really patronizing the amount of men who were like, oh, why wouldn't you do it to an alphabetical order? Because it looks nicer in color.

Speaking about men, let's talk about your book.

I am ready.

Okay, what about men?

A feminist answers the question.

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