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Hello and and erstwhile television presenter actually although that was quite a long time ago.

She is a writer who puts so much of herself on the page.

I'm wondering how much is going to be left for this interview.

But before we find out the answer to that question here's Russell Kane to tell you a little bit about his new show on Joe.

Hi Russell Kane here and I'm hosting a brand new podcast for Joe. Boys Don't Cry where I get a bunch of men together and force them to talk about the things we never talk about.

Body hair, body shape, why do girls only fancy bastards, all the things we worry about but never discuss.

Oh, and I also have a girl helping me each week just to make sure we're not talking rubbish.

So go to wherever you get your podcast, iTunes, wherever, and download Boys Don't Cry now.

Thank you Russell.

Now, time to meet Katlin Moran.

Her book How to Be Famous follows on from her best-selling, number one bestseller, in fact,

how to build a girl and well I imagine

that we'll be talking an awful lot about feminism a little bit about journalism and

uh there's a lot of sex involved.

I've been looking forward to interviewing you.

But on the way here, it occurred to me that it's going to be quite a strange

interview because you put it all out there. Yes. So do you like being interviewed?

Yeah, well I like to chat. It saves me if I'm having to do with the housework or child care.

I can just go mummies working but I'm actually just sitting down and chatting usually about my vagina.

Do you not be like Alistair Campbell who interviewed me two weeks ago and one of the questions he asked was,

are you wearing knickers now? And I thought that showed him in a very, very bad light.

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