Caitlin Flanagan

The Atlantic Interview

The Atlantic Monthly Group, LLC

Society & Culture, Politics, News

4.4 • 977 Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2018

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Caitlin Flanagan wrote a devastating story about the death of a fraternity pledge at Penn State University for the Atlantic last year, and she has updates on the case for editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg. They discuss why fraternities are still attractive to straight, white, well-off young men on college campuses. Flanagan has also started fighting feminists, with her provocative essays on how some women are turning the #MeToo movement into a racket. She sees some women using the moment to take revenge against individual men while doing nothing to topple the patriarchy. She talks about why millennial women are confused and angry about their sexual encounters. She also says that our fear of toxic masculinity is crowding out an honest look at toxic femininity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Atlantic interview. My guest today is Caitlin Flanagan,
0:09.2	who is one of America's most famous writers and certainly one of the Atlantic's most
0:13.6	famous writers and she's won a bunch of prizes for her great journalism and she
0:17.2	happened to be in town and I said let's go make a podcast so welcome
0:22.4	Caitlin Flanagan.
0:24.0	Two corrections.
0:26.0	Well you can't correct me before we've even started.
0:28.0	Okay.
0:29.0	Okay, correct me.
0:30.0	I've only ever won one award unless you count Bitch magazine calling me the
0:33.8	douche bag of the century. Wait you were what is Bitch magazine? I don't know I don't
0:38.7	think exists anymore but I have it on my CV really it was a name calibrated for success. It was.
0:44.0	On the newsstand. Okay what was the other correction?
0:48.0	I didn't happen to be in town you kindly invited me to town.
0:50.0	Oh yeah, that's true. All right. I bought my ticket. That's boring. She's in
0:56.8	town in Washington because I invited her to town to among other things talk about
1:01.6	her work on the Me Too campaign, her writing on Me Too,
1:05.2	and to talk to you, the podcast audience, about her National Magazine Award
1:10.3	nominated piece on a death in a fraternity at Penn State. We're going to talk
1:15.2	about that. Caitlin, welcome to the podcast. Thank you for having me. Very nice.
1:20.4	Very nice.
1:21.2	Caitlin, we're talking about two different kinds of male behavior that society
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