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Stay Tuned with Preet

CAFE Insider Sample 12/10: Preemptive Pardons, Mangione, & Trans Rights

Stay Tuned with Preet

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Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.8 • 32.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2024

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Will President Joe Biden preemptively pardon people on the so-called Trump enemies list? In an excerpt from a new episode of the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the balance of considerations involved. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce further explore potential preemptive pardons. They also discuss the arrest of and charges against Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, and the Supreme Court oral arguments in a case challenging Tennessee’s ban on gender-affirming care for transgender minors. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. To become a member of CAFE Insider head to cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; Editorial Producer II: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Matthew Billy, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Preet here.

0:04.1

It remains an open question whether President Biden will pardon people on the so-called Trump

0:08.2

enemies list.

0:09.5

Meanwhile, a suspect in the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson has been arrested

0:14.1

and now faces murder, firearm, and forgery charges.

0:18.1

And the Supreme Court heard oral argument last week in the case challenging

0:21.6

tendencies ban on gender affirming care for transgender minors. Joyce and I discuss all that and more

0:27.8

on a new episode of the Cafe Insider podcast. If you remember, head over to the insider feed or

0:34.5

click the link in the show notes of this podcast to listen to the full analysis.

0:38.8

Stay tuned, listeners.

0:40.1

Remain here for an excerpt from our conversation.

0:42.9

To become a member of Cafe Insider, head to cafe.com slash insider.

0:48.3

You can try the membership for just $1 for one month.

0:51.5

That's cafe.com slash insider.

0:55.8

Now on to the show.

1:07.0

But the other thing that's been swirling around, and I talked about it a little bit on the Jen Saki show in MSNBC last night. I know you've been talking about. In the wake of the Hunter Biden pardon is the question of whether or not they're going to be more preemptive pardons.

1:18.2

For people like Jack Smith, for people like the members of the January 6th committee,

1:26.4

that Trump and some of his supporters and some of his

1:30.1

appointees even have suggested are deserving of investigation and prosecution.

1:35.8

Is that really a thing that's going to happen? Will it be a bad look? I have evolving and mixed

1:40.6

feelings about all of this, but what's your assessment of this question of preemptive

1:44.7

pardons for people who I say and have said, we're just doing their jobs?

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