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Stay Tuned with Preet

CAFE Insider 6/6: Indictment, Part Deux

Stay Tuned with Preet

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News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

In this excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the meeting between Trump’s defense lawyers and DOJ prosecutors as Special Counsel Jack Smith’s Mar-A-Lago documents investigations nears the end. Who would be in attendance? Would a plea deal be discussed? And how did Preet and Joyce handle such meetings when they were U.S. Attorneys?  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce continue their discussion of the Mar-A-Lago case, including reports of new evidence that speaks to Trump’s state of mind, potential charges prosecutors could bring, and Trump’s likely defenses. They also discuss the embarrassing incident of a lawyer who relied on ChapGPT for legal research and cited made-up cases in a legal document submitted to the court.  Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider for one month for $1.00: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive benefits. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Tamara Sepper – Executive Producer; Jake Kaplan – Editorial Producer; Nat Weiner – Audio Producer Check out other CAFE podcasts: Now & Then, Up Against The Mob Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Joyce Vance here.

0:04.1

Special counsel Jack Smith is reportedly nearing the end of his investigation into Trump's

0:08.5

handling of classified documents at Mar-a-Laga.

0:11.6

And there are new developments to discuss, including a report that prosecutors have obtained

0:16.2

an audio recording of Trump admitting he held onto a classified Pentagon document.

0:21.8

Meanwhile there's a fascinating story involving a lawyer's use of chat GPT in a formal brief.

0:27.4

What could possibly go wrong?

0:29.2

It turns out a lot.

0:31.2

Preet Bharara and I discuss all of this and more on the Cafe Insider podcast.

0:36.0

Today we're sharing an excerpt from the episode with listeners of Stay Tuned.

0:40.6

To hear our full conversation and access all other Cafe Insider content, try the membership

0:46.2

for just one dollar for one month.

0:48.9

You can do that at cafe.com slash insider.

0:52.3

That's cafe.com slash insider.

0:55.8

We look forward to having you as a part of the insider community.

1:02.7

So first the Mar-a-Laga document.

1:04.1

So there's been obviously an indictment in Manhattan, by the Manhattan District Attorney,

1:08.2

Alvin Bragg.

1:10.5

Lots of focus on the Mar-a-Laga documents.

1:13.2

Jack Smith, the special counsel, has not talked to the press, has not, to my knowledge,

1:18.8

leaked any information at all about the case, although some information trickles out,

1:24.1

speaks through his work.

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