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Stay Tuned with Preet

CAFE Insider 6/13: Legal Hurdles in the Mar-a-Lago Case

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.8 • 32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2023

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

In this excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the importance of evidence from Evan Corcoran, Donald Trump’s lawyer and a key witness, to DOJ’s classified documents case against the former president. Preet and Joyce also react to Senator Lindsey Graham’s argument that it is “absolutely ridiculous” to charge Trump under the Espionage Act. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce continue to discuss the Trump indictment, including Trump’s potential motives for taking the classified documents, his likely defenses, why the government didn’t conduct a search at Trump’s Bedminster, NJ, property, and the differences between Trump’s alleged crimes and the Hillary Clinton email scandal. Plus, will Aileen Cannon, the controversial Trump-appointed judge overseeing the Mar-a-Lago case, recuse herself? And will Trump’s lawyers get some help from a 13-year-old case involving the Presidential Records Act and Bill Clinton’s sock drawer? Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider for one month for $1.00: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive benefits. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Tamara Sepper – Executive Producer; Jake Kaplan – Editorial Producer; Nat Weiner – Audio Producer Check out other CAFE podcasts: Now & Then, Up Against The Mob Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, pre here.

0:03.3

The news of Donald Trump's federal indictment in Florida continues to reverberate, and

0:07.3

the aftershocks have raised a new series of questions.

0:10.0

Like this, Will Eileen Cannon, a controversial Trump-appointed judge assigned to the case,

0:15.2

recuse herself.

0:16.7

And why didn't the FBI search Trump's property in Bedminster, New Jersey?

0:20.3

Another site where Trump allegedly brought and bragged about classified documents.

0:25.2

Plus, what are Trump's potential defenses?

0:27.6

And what could have been as motive for taking the documents?

0:30.3

Joyce Vance and I dive deep into all of that, including a 13-year-old case involving

0:34.4

Bill Clinton's sock drawer and the Presidential Records Act that some say may help Trump.

0:39.0

Today, we're sharing an excerpt from the episode with listeners of Stay Tuned.

0:43.0

To hear our full conversation and access all other Cafe Insider content, try the membership

0:47.9

for just $1 for one month.

0:50.0

You can do that at cafe.com slash insider.

0:53.4

That's cafe.com slash insider.

0:56.4

We look forward to having you as a part of the insider community.

1:04.1

A lot of what's in this indictment, and we didn't really focus on this too much last time,

1:07.9

is devastating for the former president.

1:10.8

Why?

1:12.0

Because it's presumed testimony and also notes and documents by the lawyers, right?

1:18.5

Some of the obstructive conduct that is detailed in the indictment comes out of the mouth

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