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Stay Tuned with Preet

CAFE Insider 4/14: COVID Aftershocks

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

To join the CAFE Insider community, head to cafe.com/insider In this episode of CAFE Insider, “COVID Aftershocks,” Preet and Anne break down all the latest politically-charged legal issues and developments, including: — The formation of a White House “Council to Re-Open America,” and President Trump’s false assertion that “when somebody is the President, authority is total.” — Concerns about the upcoming November election and the legal and political dynamics surrounding the push to vote-by-mail. — The surprising constitutional questions around presidential succession in the U.S., as leaders around the world are falling ill with the coronavirus. — Attorney General Bill Barr’s recent interview in which he said the media was “on a jihad” to discredit President Trump, and the DOJ’s intention to take action to protect religious freedom. — The news that Apple and Google are teaming up to create “contact tracing” tools to help track and prevent the spread of the virus, and the privacy issues that arise from this kind of surveillance. We hope you’re enjoying CAFE Insider. Email us at [email protected] with your suggestions and questions for Preet and Anne. REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS WHITE HOUSE COVID-19 RESPONSE: 10th Amendment of the U.S Constitution Clip: Trump says presidential authority is “total,” CNN, 4/13/20 Clip: Larry Kudlow says investors should “think about buying during these dips,” CNBC, 3/6/20 “Wilbur Ross’s prediction about the coronavirus bringing back jobs was wrong,” Vox, 4/2/20 “Trump’s grand reopening council triggers slew of new questions,” Politico, 4/13/20 VOTE-BY-MAIL Trump tweet criticizing vote-by-mail, 4/8/20 Brennan Center vote-by-mail explainer, 4/8/20 “Voting by mail and the race between Biden and Trump,” The Atlantic, 4/11/20 PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESSION 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution Presidential Succession Act of 1947, 3 U.S. Code § 19 Presidential Succession Act of 1792 Presidential Succession Act of 1886 Congressional Research Service report on presidential succession, 6/29/05 Continuity of Government Commission succession report, 6/1/09 Jack Goldsmith, “A Presidential Succession Nightmare,” Lawfare, 3/25/20 BARR & RELIGIOUS FREEDOM Free Exercise Clause of the 1st Amendment AG Barr’s Fox News interview with Laura Ingraham, 4/8/20 DOJ spokesperson tweeting “expect action” on religious freedom, 4/11/20 Employment Division of Oregon v. Smith (1990), decision establishing rational basis test for religious freedom cases “William Barr’s Wild Misreading of the First Amendment,” Jeffrey Toobin, The New Yorker, 10/17/19 “States Consider Whether Religious Services Qualify as ‘Essential,’” NPR, 4/1/20 CONTACT TRACING Apple’s official announcement of Google partnership on contact tracing, 4/10/20 Andy Slavitt tweet thanking Google and Apple, 4/10/20 “The biggest questions about Apple and Google’s new coronavirus tracker,” The Verge, 4/11/20 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, stay tuned listeners. I hope you and your loved ones are staying healthy and safe during these extraordinarily difficult times.

0:06.0

As many of you know, Ann Milgram and I co-host the Cafe Insider podcast, where every Tuesday, we break down politically charged legal issues making the headlines.

0:14.0

The podcast is part of the Cafe Insider membership, and I'm so glad that insiders are staying engaged, writing in with questions and comments.

0:21.0

Thank you, as always, for helping support our work.

0:24.0

As we make sense of the ongoing coronavirus crisis, this week we are taking down the paywall on the podcast so that everyone can listen and participate.

0:32.0

This week, Ann and I discuss constitutional questions around presidential succession, the debate overvoting by mail, and Attorney General Barr's recent comments on a religious freedom.

0:40.0

I hope you enjoy our conversation and now on to the show.

0:45.0

From Cafe, welcome to Cafe Insider. I'm Pete Barara.

0:50.0

And I'm Ann Milgram. Hi Ann. Hi, Pete. How are you? Happy Easter.

0:55.0

Yeah, yes, and to you and to everyone celebrating. Yeah, exactly.

1:01.0

So we opened up the entire economy, the country's back to work on as of Easter, right? As the president said a couple of years ago.

1:08.0

It was not actually. Yeah, it was very interesting day. We saw my parents and we sat about 20 feet away from them.

1:17.0

And then we took a walk and it was a really quiet. It was a quiet day.

1:22.0

So you do 20 feet. You do 20 feet because you want to buff you in an extra margin of 14 feet.

1:29.0

No, I'm very careful. No, I'm guessing it was about 20 feet. We just sort of, you know, we sort of sat at a distance and did a little Easter egg hunt.

1:39.0

And I feel like one of the things that's complicated and confusing about all this is that first it was, you know, six feet, then it's maybe people's spit can go beyond six feet.

1:49.0

And so I just, you know, we were just being cautious. How about you? How was Easter?

1:54.0

You should probably stick to Easter egg hunts and not spitting contests to avoid that problem.

1:59.0

Exactly. Yeah, it's like stop it. Yeah, we had a quiet weekend. And we had a, we had a small satar over Passover.

2:07.0

And, you know, waiting for the country reopen. I guess we should talk about that. There continues to be all we've talked about it before.

2:14.0

This lingering question in people's minds because the president causes a lot of confusion as to who has the ultimate authority to quote unquote reopen the country.

2:23.0

The president said yesterday, it's hard to believe that you can be more astonished by pronouncements he makes.

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