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CAFE Insider 12/5: Trump’s Immunity Defenses

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🗓️ 5 December 2023

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

In this excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the ruling by a panel of D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals judges that held that presidential immunity does not shield former President Donald Trump from civil liability related to his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – The ruling by a D.C. District Court judge that rejected Trump’s motion to dismiss the criminal charges in the election interference criminal case; and – The hearing in Fulton County where Trump’s lawyers argued that the criminal charges in Georgia should be dismissed and that Trump cannot stand on trial until 2029 if he becomes president again. Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive content. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Joyce Vance here.

0:03.8

Another busy week of politically charged legal news making the headlines.

0:07.8

In the past week, federal judges ruled that former President Donald Trump

0:11.9

is not immune from civil and criminal

0:13.9

liability over conduct related to his efforts to overturn the results of the

0:18.4

2020 election. Meanwhile at a hearing in Fulton County, Trump's lawyers argued that the criminal charges in Georgia should be dismissed.

0:27.0

They also argued that if Trump becomes president again, the trial could not be held until he leaves office.

0:33.2

Preet Barara and I discuss all that and more on the Café Insider Podcast.

0:38.4

To hear our full conversation and access all other cafe insider content,

0:43.0

try the membership for just $1 for one month.

0:46.0

You can do that at cafe.com slash insider.

0:49.0

That's cafe.com slash insider. Cafe. should we talk about first? There is so much, but I'm fascinated by the whole situation with Trump getting some really bad

1:08.1

rulings in court in the last few days.

1:10.8

A bit of a double whammy, consistent with the theme that we talk about on the show all the time,

1:16.0

one with respect to a civil suit or I guess three civil suits that may be some people have forgotten about pending in the District of

1:24.6

Columbia and another relating to the criminal case in connection with

1:30.0

January 6th also in the District of Columbia, and the common theme there is, in both cases,

1:36.5

Trump and his team have argued that the former president has or had absolute immunity in connection with the conduct that he engaged in,

1:46.0

and in both cases the absolute immunity argument was shut down.

1:49.4

And you and I have talked about this many, many times, right?

1:51.6

There are moderate arguments to make, There are moderate arguments to make.

1:53.8

There are reasonable arguments to make.

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