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CAFE Insider 12/12: Mr. Smith Goes to SCOTUS

Stay Tuned with Preet

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🗓️ 13 December 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

In this excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down special counsel Jack Smith’s petition to the Supreme Court, in the election subversion case against Donald Trump, asking the justices to decide whether a former president is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution for crimes committed while in office. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – Trump’s decision not to testify in his defense in the NY civil fraud trial; and  – Hunter Biden’s indictment on nine federal tax charges. Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive content. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network. SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS: “The 10th Justice (with Michael Dreeben),” CAFE Insider, 3/14/23 “Two Americas, One SCOTUS (with Michael Dreeben),” CAFE Insider, 7/18/23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Preet here.

0:04.0

Big news this week.

0:05.6

Special Counsel Jack Smith petitioned the Supreme Court to decide whether former President

0:09.6

Donald Trump is immune from criminal prosecution for alleged crimes he committed while in office.

0:15.0

Meanwhile in New York, Trump declined to testify in his defense in the civil fraud trial.

0:20.4

In other news, President Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, has been indicted on criminal charges for a second time.

0:27.0

He's facing nine federal tax charges, including failing to pay his taxes and filing false tax returns. Joyce Vance and I discuss all that and more on the

0:35.9

Café Insider Podcast. To hear our full conversation and access all other Café Insider content,

0:42.1

try the membership for just one dollar for one month.

0:45.2

You can do that at cafe.com slash insider. That's Cafe.com slash insider.

0:51.5

We look forward to having you as a part of the insider community.

0:55.0

Okay, so let's talk about the Supreme Court.

1:00.0

We're recording this as usual on Tuesday morning. On Monday, yesterday, we got news

1:07.1

that Jacksmith, the Special Counsel, on two different federal criminal cases against

1:11.4

Donald Trump, has filed a petition with the

1:15.0

Supreme Court of the United States of America. People will remember that recently

1:18.4

we talked about the district court decision by Judge Chutkin to deny request to dismiss the indictment on a couple

1:24.9

of grounds, chiefly the claim that Trump made that he is absolutely immune from criminal

1:30.0

prosecution and also that the Constitution forbids his prosecution

1:33.8

under the Double Jeopardy Clause because he had already been tried an impeachment

1:38.1

trial in the Senate relating to January 6th. So she denied those claims. I'm going to have you explain this in a moment

1:45.0

choice. In the ordinary course in our system, when the first court, the district court, the

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