CAFE Insider 11/15: Giuliani, Student Debt, & IRS

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🗓️ 15 November 2022

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

In this sample from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the legal challenges to President Biden’s student debt cancellation program. Why did multiple federal judges strike down the program? What are the chances that the Biden administration is successful in its appeal? The full episode covers: – The news that federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York will not bring criminal charges against Rudy Giuliani in connection with his Ukraine-related foreign lobbying. – New revelations that former President Trump expressed his desire to have the IRS investigate his political enemies. – Trump’s claim that he aided Ron DeSantis in Florida’s 2018 gubernatorial race by sending “the FBI and U.S. Attorneys” to investigate false election fraud allegations. Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, try the membership for one month for $1.00: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive benefits. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network. Tamara Sepper – Executive Producer; Jake Kaplan – Editorial Producer; Nat Weiner – Audio Producer REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS: “Use of the HEROES Act of 2003 to Cancel the Principal Amounts of Student Loans, Slip Opinion, Department of Justice, 8/23/22 H.R.1412 - Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students Act of 2003 Myra Brown et al v. U.S. Department of Education, Northern District of Texas, 11/10/22 Nebraska v. Joseph R. Biden Jr., 8th Circuit Court of Appeals, 11/14/22 Legal Standing — Legal Information Institute Steve Vladeck, “Opinion: The judge blocking student loan relief for millions is wrong about the law,” CNN, 11/12/22 Steve Vladeck Twitter thread on 8th Circuit ruling, 11/14/22 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:52.2	So let's talk about an issue that is unrelated to January 6, unrelated to Rudy Giuliani.
2:14.2	Not a criminal law matter, but one of great importance.
2:18.2	It's a major question, if you will, which will be an interesting phrase as you'll discover in a moment.
2:25.2	And that is the controversial decision that the Biden administration has made to cancel some quantity of student debt.
2:34.2	This is something, by the way, I don't know your view, put the law aside for a moment.
2:40.2	I think many reasonable people think it's a good policy and it's something that should have been done.
2:45.2	I think also there are reasonable people who think it's not a good policy and not an equitable policy.
2:50.2	Given that lots and lots of people did pay their debt, et cetera, et cetera, we don't have to get into that debate.
2:54.2	But I want to say at the outset, this legal debate and this legal controversy is not really on its face about whether it's a good or bad policy,
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