Hey folks, I'm Pete Barara.

And I'm Joyce Vance.

This week we have a busy docket on the Cafe Insider podcast.

The January 6th Committee released its final report,

along with a number of transcripts from interviews with key witnesses,

including Cassidy Hutchinson, John Eastman, and Mick Mulvaney.

This is a compilation of the record for history,

and I think it will be viewed by different people in different ways

over the next weeks, months, and years.

And ultimately, assuming everything goes okay, and we're still around,

it will become a basis for people to appreciate how close we were

and what we need to do to make sure it never happens again.

Having now seen the full report, I still stand by the proposition

that it would have been better.

Again, not by a lot, I think it's maybe overstated on both sides.

It would have been better for the Committee not to make specific criminal referrals.

If you have this whole group of people persistently taking the fifth,

then I think that at some level, that's like waving a red flag

to the Justice Department saying, hey, they don't get to assert the fifth amendment,

and then that's it. It's over. They walk away with no consequence.

This is a red flag for DOJ to take a good hard look here.

Perhaps the most important part of Cassie Hutchinson's testimony

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