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putting the whole podcast, releasing it right after the show's over at 6, all right. John Cobalt's show

on demand. I want to talk now. We're going to talk with Mark Jaffe. He's president of the Contra Costa

Taxpayers Association. And he's a visiting fellow with the California Policy Center.

And he put out a story which made the California Post.

And I've also been looking at their original release.

And he and another researcher by the name of Edward Ring, who we've had on the show,

Mark Jaffe and Edward Ring, they've been studying whether there's actually been climate change in California.

As you know, our gas prices are at $4.60 a gallon and may be headed up to $8 a gallon because Gavin Newsom has run the oil industry

out of the state, literally.

And across the rest of the country, they're paying $2.90.

And it's all because of climate change policies.

Well, did the climate really change?

And what they've done is they've analyzed the U.S.

drought monitor, which has been claiming that drought conditions in California have doubled

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